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important for the country and more important for our members. we're in a fight for the middle class here. >> all right. we will see if big oil will budge and we'll follow this story. leo gerard president of the international still eelworkers. appreciate your time. that's "the ed show." i'll ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins now. good evening rev. geekood evening, ed, thanks to you for tuning in. today's lead president obama releases his plan for a more fair country. will republicans get on board? the president unveiled his new budget today. an ambitious plan for taking aim at income inequality. building on his state of the union address. >> middle class economics. the idea that this country does best when everybody gets a fair shot. and everybody's doing their fair share. and everybody plays by the same set of rules. that's what this budget is about. it reflects our values. making sure that we are making the investments we need to keep
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america safe to keep america growing and to make sure that everybody is participating no matter what they look like, where they come from, no matter how they started in life they've got a chance to get ahead in this great country of ours. that's what i believe. that's what you believe. let's get it done. thank you. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> the budget contains tax breaks childcare subsidies, and education initiatives target at low and middle-income families. it invests in infrastructure projects and it wipes away those automatic cuts forced by the gop congress. all paid for by taxing corporate profits kept in offshore havens. closing the trust fund loophole and raising taxes on investment gains for high-income earners. it's detailed blueprint for the
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economy grounded in the president's vision of fairness. yet, even before it was released republicans like paul ryan went into attack mode. >> what i think the president is trying to do here is to, again, exploit envy economics. this top-down redistribution doesn't work. we've been doing it for six years. >> envy economics is a new spin on their tired old claim of class warfare. but then congressman ryan took it even a step further. "the obamanomics that we're practiceing now have exacerbated inequality. the wealthy are doing really well. they're practicing trickle-down economics now." now, that takes some brass. the same congressman who wants to gut the safety net and lower taxes on the rich is accusing
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president obama of trickle-down economics? he's accusing the president of making inequality worse? really? republicans need to put these phony talking points aside and talk about real solutions for giving a fair shot to all americans. joining me now is congressman chaka fattah, democrat from pennsylvania, and jared bernstein, former chief economist to vice president biden. thank you both for being here. >> thank you, rev. >> thank you rev. >> congressman, paul ryan says the president, barack obama, is practicing trickle-down economics. isn't that the oldest trick in politics accusing the other side of doing what you're actually guilty of? >> well look these guys have to deal with reality. the president has laid out his budget. every dollar he lays out where we need to invest it. he says we need to move away from mindless austerity to a smart investment that strengthen our country. what we have to do now is get
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past the rhetoric. they have to put their numbers on the table. he, the president says hey, we need to make permanent my legislation. i created the american opportunities tax credit so that right now millions of families benefit by it but it's temporary. he wants to make it permanent. he wants to invest in great programs that create workforce development, job training. so they have to come with what they -- you have to get past the rhetoric. they're going to have to put numbers on the table and join the president in this debate. >> you know, when you talk about numbers on the table, jared, let's look at what congressman ryan's economic agenda is. not really the numbers, but his agenda. he wants to repeal the affordable care act. he opposes raising the minimum wage. he called for cuts to medicaid cuts to food stamps, and cuts to pell grants sgrant. now, does that sound like a plan to combat income inequality to you? >> no. if you combine that with his
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budgets which consistently cut deeply into programs for low-income people while cutting even more deeply into the taxes paid by the wealthy, then you have what is actually trickle-down economics. that's the definition of it. so he got trickle-down upsidedown and i guess that can happen if you're in the business of saying whatever comes into your head. i very much like where representative fattah is coming from, put the name calling aside for a couple days, silt downt down, roll up our sleeves. i think republicans would like to do something on infrastructure in this country, perhaps somethinging on educational opportunity. we know paul ryan has said he agrees we should expand the earned income tax credit for childless adults. how about doing some work? i go to work you go to work, the congressman goes to work. how about actually stopping with this ridiculous upsidedown name calling, getting together and trying to deal with the challenges the nation faces? >> and dealing with those challenges congressman, is actually for what the president is proposing --
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>> right. >> -- something the american people want. when you look at the items on the president's budget 51% support his call for free community college. 66% back his paid sick leave proposal. 58% support the idea of closing tax loopholes on higher earners and giving credit to middle income families. 73% support taxing corporate profits kept overseas. congressman fattah are republicans worried they're losing the public debate on fairness to the president? >> well it's obvious, because, you know the president laid out a $470 million proposal to improve our roads and our bridge, our ports, our airports today. the republicans have been talking about this but now they have to come and react to their proposal, and on the president's point, he's made a budget that the numbers work out. you know, he says look we want to tax corporate profits made by american corporations that those
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profits are held off shore. let's deal with that so we can fund some of these important programs that we need funded in our country. the president is not running for election anymore. he's running the american economy. he's done a darn good job so far and it would be great if we could get some of our republican friends rather than try to tackle their own quarterback, to actually work with the president because we're competing with our economic competitors abroad. it's really not about democrat and republican. >> now jared, you talked about the way that some of the republicans may work along with some things. you've even written about it. and you highlighted infrastructure investment raising budget caps expanding earned income tax credit and upward mobility project and anti-poverty program. how optimistic are you, jared, that republicans will in fact come to the table and try to work around maybe some of these issues? >> well i would actually put
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the odds on the first two that you mentioned that somewhere, perhaps, above 50%. and i'll tell you why. i'm talking about infrastructure and raising these spending caps otherwise known as sequestration. you know, we always have to have an obscure word here in washington for everything. on infrastructure at the end of may, the congressman knows this the highway trust fund goes bust. and so we're going to have to come up with some way to prevent that from happening so that we don't have to put a stop to programs that are actively in place repairing our transportation infrastructure. secondly, when it comes to raising these budget caps, both sides are chafing at the bit, whether it's on the defense side of the appropriations, many republicans don't want to see that spending cap bind, or whether it's on the nondefense side where you're talking about health and education investment, research, science, infrastructure, nutrition. obviously many people on the democratic side want to see those caps go up. they've done it before.
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there was a bipartisan budget plan, paul ryan and patty murray did it. >> yeah. >> i believe they may go back to it again. >> congressman fattah before we were hearing cut, cut, cut, austerity plans. it's a different economy now. do you think there can be a deal made? do you think there can be some coming together for what the president is proposing? >> there will be a deal reverend, but let me say this. what the republicans want to do is lie, not tell the truth to their constituency, so theirto their base. the president never spent one dollar that the congress didn't appropriate. that's number one. number two, we're going to come to an agreement around appropriations because it has to be done. >> exactly. >> we'll go through the shouting, we'll go through the back and forth but at the end of the year there's going to be an agreement about how to move our country forward and the republicans are not getting everything they want. the president won't get everything he asked for today. but we'll have a meeting of the minds. we need to make sure that working people and those
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struggling to get into the middle class are not left out. >> weshlgsll, i guess the devil is in the details. >> it. >> i hope as it comes together it provides jobs and some basics for the poorest and middle class americans that have so far not got the right growth in terms of this recovery. congressman chaka fattah, jared bernstein, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. coming up, governor chris christie and the vaccination debate. why he had to clarify a statement today. and a drone lands at the white house sparking new questions about drone safety in america. tonight, we'll show you how easy it is to operate drones. here in the studio. and a truly super super bowl. from the catch to the call. to katy perry, to the ads. we'll talk about it all ahead on
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it was the most talked about super bowl ever on facebook and twitter. 28.4 million tweets were sent about the super bowl. and 265 million super bowl-related posts, comments and likes on facebook. the top moments were people liked and talked about katy perry perry's halftime show that game-winning patriots interception by the now household name malcolm butler. and the moment the patriots were crowned super bowl champs.
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six pounds of meth. the faa says drones can be used only for personal use, but everyone from photographers, to conservation conservationalist, to real estate agents, wants to use them for commercial purposes. amazon even wants to test drones for delivering packages to customers. but what about privacy? and security? we've already seen that a drone can be modified to carry a paint ball gun that accurately hit its targets. recently i talked with john resnick who works for the company that makes the drone that crashed at the white house and asked what they're doing to prevent another accident. >> it's actually an extension of our no-fly program that we started last year, and expanding it to the d.c. no-fly zone was pretty much a no-brainer. >> how easy are these drones to learn to fly? >> well they're easier than
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older style rc aircraft, the traditional model aircraft but they still do take some practice. >> let's see it fly. >> here we go. now you can see i can control how high it goes, how low it goes, left right, forward, back. it normally will use gps technology to know its position in space, but right now we're indoors so it's going to tend to wander around a little bit. >> but you're controlling all of its movement? >> yes, i am with these sticks right here. so -- >> how long can one of these fly over us? >> our battery -- we promote our battery life for as long as 25 minutes, but in reality, it really depends on how you're flying it what the weather conditions are like.
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>> all right. we'll bring it down so we can talk a little bit. >> yeah. potential uses are myriad. all kinds of folks are looking at using these, besides just like photographers, we're talking about search and rescue folks, agriculture, conservation forestry. >> how difficult is it to modify a drone? after the white house incident, we heard people talking about whether you can attach an explosive or something to one. >> i can't speak for other manufacturers, but we work all the time at maintaining the security of our drones the software security of our drones so that they're very difficult to actually alter. >> let's see it fly again. >> all righty. here we go.
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>> john resnick, i appreciate the demonstration. both of them. thank you for your time. >> not a problem. joining me now is izzy lapowski, staff writer at "wired" magazine. the february issue of "wired" is out now, and features an article on the use of delivery drones. and the rise of this technology around the world. thanks for being here first of all. >> thanks for having me. >> do you expect drone use to surge over the next decade? >> oh absolutely and it's only going to get more popular once the faa comes out with its rules around drone use. right now, drones are sort of in this gray area people don't know what is legal, how they're allowed to use it and once the faa releases its rules i think people will be a lot more interested. especially the more people use it and post what they're doing with drones on social media as
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they correct photos and videos they're collecting with their drones on instagram, people see it and want to get their hands on that, too. >> some countries are already allowing drones for commercialism, like a pizza delivery drone in russia you just enter the coordinate forst for your location and lowers a pizza down online, or an ambulance drone offered in belgium that could offer emergency assistance in just minutes. what do private companies envision for the future when they think about drones? >> i think that there's -- everything. i mean we've seen companies, or companies in bhutan delivering medical supplies to rural towns. you're seeing weather photographers who want to use this to you know take really out of control photos. so i think that it really runs the gambut. once these rules are out, people will find more and more applications we never even dreamed of today. >> how will the faa address safety concerns? is there any way to make sure drones don't get where they're
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not supposed to be? we don't seem to have our arms around this yet. >> that's the thing. they're going to have to release some rules around how businesses can use it. already recreational use is legal. as long as you're flying under 400 feet. again, that's pretty hard to enforce. you can set the rule but it's pretty hard to enforce. there's a lot of talk of licenses. we're not really sure what would go into licensing. >> there's the problem, issie. if we're not enforcing it are fears over malicious use of drones legitimate? we've already seen a drone can be equipped to deal with a paint ball gun. >> i think they're absolutely legitimate. this is going to be an effort not just by the faa but the national counterterrorism center. they're going to have to work together because the faa is used to regulating airspace. we're going to need a lot more help to figure out how to combat terrorism and other misuses. >> all right, issie lapowsky thank you so much for your time tonight. you can read more in the
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february issue of "wired ""available now. still ahead, governor christie and the vaccine controversy. was it a gap or a play to the base? also what are people saying about the call? and katy perry's halftime show. but first, how speaker boehner is a lot like bill murray in "groundhog day." it's tonight's "gotcha." over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. our eyes they have a 200-degree range of sight. which is good for me. hey! and bad for the barkley twins. your brain can send information to the rest of your body at 268 mph. three times the speed of a fastball. take care of your most important parts
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he says that -- that he -- >> ouch! this is the mayor getting an earful from jimmy the groundhog on this chilly groundhog day. of course for many people groundhog day triggers memories of the classic bill murray
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movie. wheres where he lives the same day over and over again. it's kind of like speaker john boehner. threatening to repeal the affordable care act year after year after year. >> we've made it clear that we want to repeal obamacare and replace it. the house will act next week to repeal the job-killing health care law. this week the house will vote to repeal obamacare. we have voted to repeal obamacare. we want obamacare gone. the house, i'm sure at some point next year will move to repeal obamacare because it should be repealed and it should be replaced. we have 47 new members of congress on the republican side who've never had the chance to cast their vote to repeal obamacare. >> it's the same old script year after year. and this groundhog day is no different. republicans are gearing up to hold their 56th vote to repeal the health care law tomorrow. a law helping millions of
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people. president obama has promised to veto it, but speaker boehner is still letting it happen. i'm going to toss it over to bill murray to help explain how we should all feel about this one. ♪ then put your little hand in mine there ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb ♪ >> couldn't have said it better myself. but at the end of the movie, bill murray's character sees the error of his ways and breaks out of the cycle. i guess that means there's hope for speaker boehner, too, but until then as we've done year after year after year, we gotcha.
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vaccinations. the science is you know pretty indisputable. we've looked at this again and again. there is every reason to get vaccinated. there aren't reasons to not get vaccinated. >> are you telling parents you should get your kids vaccinated? >> you should get your kids vaccinated. >> the issues of vaccinations is becoming political. as the president was telling americans to get vaccinated new jersey governor chris christie was in england touring a flu vaccine plant, saying this. >> all i can say is we vaccinate ours so you know that's the best i can give you is my opinion. i also understand that parents need to have some measure of choice in things as well so that's the balance that the government has to decide. >> it was a controversial statement that christie tried to clarify. >> it depends on what the vaccine is what the disease type is and all the rest so we have to have that conversation but that has to -- that's the
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move and shift, in my view from disease type. not every vaccine is created equal. and not every disease type is as great a public health threat as others. >> it set off a firestorm on social media. with many saying he was putting public health at risk. others saying he was playing politics. his office tried to walk it back with a statement saying "with a disease like measles, there's no question kids should get vaccinated. at the same time different states require different degrees of vaccination, which is why he was calling for balance in which ones government should mandate." what was christie saying and why was he saying it? joining me now, dana milbank and joan walsh. >> danae hi reverend. >> dana let me go to you first.
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>> clearly he's not up to date on his inoculation for foot and mouth disease. it sounds like whatever he was trying to do he flubbed it. one suspects he was going at what happened to rick perry in 2012 with the hpv vaccine. he knows there's a fringe crowd on the rights there's a fringe crowd on the left too, that has declared war on vaccine. he was trying to make a nod to that but he clearly stepped in it there and he did something that would indicate to the average american and the vast majority of americans understand the importance of vaccination to suggest that he's not quite ready for primetime. not necessarily that he's in cahoots with the autism anti-vaccine anti-vaccine crowd, he's not being careful before speaking. >> joan, let me go there. this isn't the first time christie has questioned vaccines in. in in 2009, as he ran for governor, he wrote he supported parents who thought vaccines were linked to autism.
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writing, "i stand with them now and will stand with them as their governor in their fight for greater parental involvement in vaccination decisions that affects their children." joan seems like a lot of flip-flopping from the governor on whether children should need to be vaccinated or not. >> i agree. i don't think it's clear at all what he really believes given that history, reverend al. he should have been careful about it. he also looks kind of frivolous. you know he's in england, great. i guess it's a trade trip. i don't really know. he seems not to realize that back here, back at home in new jersey, in california, in new york, we're concerned about an outbreak of measles and so he seems to think he can have it both ways he can nod to the parental choice that's always good for republicans, while saying i did vaccinate my kids. that's sloppy. and it's really irresponsible. and when it's played back to back with the president's clear message, it looks terrible. >> well let's cut to the chase,
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dana. what are we looking at here? is he playing politics? is he trying to have it both ways? is he trying to not go too far to appease certain crowds as he contemplates and many of us feel he's going to enter this race? what's going on here dana? >> well i suspect, and we don't know what's going on in that great brain of chris christie that he is trying to have it both ways and he wound up making a mistake in the way he spoke. now, you know, it's one thing for rand paul to come out and say, you know, parents should have a choice. he's a libertarian. chris christie, i mean do you recall this is the same chris christie who was basically imprisoning this woman who they thought might have ebola? >> that's exactly right. >> in new jersey. turned out she didn't. this is the same chris christie saying, oh you know measles, that's really no problem, just don't worry about that. >> he basically -- >> he's not going to -- yeah. >> he basically had this woman held because they questioned whether she had ebola. >> right. >> now you're talking about children with vaccines while
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he's standing in front of a plant in england trying to look more global -- >> right. >> -- with his political understanding. i mean, the question i guess is fine. everybody does what they do to show what they're trying to show to run for president. all of us that have ran did. but the question is what do you really believe in and where are -- where's your central standing ground? >> right. in the case of kacie hickox he defied health. what he did flew in the face of what experts were advising reverend al. again tharks again, that's the continuity. ignoring public health officials, substituting his own judgment and doing something that's not advancing public health. >> rand paul, it's not just christie. rand paul. listen to what rand paul had to say on cnbc. >> i think they're a good thing, but i think the parent should
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have some input. the state doesn't own your children. >> okay. >> parents own the children. and it is an issue of freedom. >> freedom. i mean is this a new talking point, dana with the right? freedom? >> i don't know what freedom is when they're saying you own your children. what are they golden retrievers? i didn't realize that parents own children. look this is a fringe element that he's representing. the libertarians. you expect that kind of thing from rand paul. you don't expect it from the governor of new jersey. >> well, he went a little bit -- >> he went a little beyond what we expect and parents owning their children really is a staple of right-wing rhetoric. he also got abusive with the cnbc reporter today in a very touchy way. so this whole thing i think is backfiring on him. both he and chris christie seem not to have thought very deeply about the implications of what they're doing and when they get political pushback they seem unprepared for it so that seems kind of lame to me. >> but isn't -- well let me ask this. when he ran for president, rick
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perry in 2011 reversed himself on the hpv vaccine mandate in texas calling it a mistake because he was getting a lot of pressure from the right. "the vaccine would encourage promiscuity, according to many conservatives who had long supported perry's views against abortion and same-sex marriage." dana, i think you referred to it. is this what they're trying to avoid? >> well, they seem to be stepping right back into that. that's presumably why chris christie made this sort of statement because he knows about the trouble that chris christie got himself into. he knows that -- >> you mean rick perry. >> sorry, rick perry did. he knows that michele bachmann had just a field day with that. so, you know, the problem is whether they're talking about vaccination or about birth control. you can see why they want to limit the number of debates on the republican side because they get into president 19th century debates in the 21st century. >> isn't that also part of what
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we're looking at here are these guys ready for primetime politics? the big stage. where you're going to have to deal with these issues and not stumble all over yourself in talking about it. >> right. it really seems like they're not. it's somewhat surprising with chris christie because she's supposed to be the moderate. he should not be you know appealing to the michele bachmann demographic but it seems like he thinks that he's got to. >> dana milbank and joan walsh. thank you both for your time this evening. >> thanks, reverend. coming up the epic super bowl ending. some are calling it the worst play call in sports history. do you agree? plus the ad that sparked outrage online. how far is too far? and where does katy perry halftime show rank? our super bowl afterparty is next.
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it was a game for the ages. the super bowl came down to the very end and chances are you watched the patriots pull it off. it was the most watched show in u.s. television history. over 114 million tuned in. including my next guest.
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joining me for the after party, msnbc's krystal ball and cbs sport network dana jacobson. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having us on the afterparty. it's exclusive. >> a list of two. >> how did you get tickets? anyone want to guess where we're starting? seahawks fans please look away. seattle only had to go half a yard to win the game but a rookie who wasn't even drafted saved the day for the patriots with a goal-line interception. >> play clock to five. pass is intercepted at the goal line by malcolm butler. unreal. >> the "seattle times" calls it the worst call in super bowl history, and many players agree. dana the seahawks coach took the blame. what's your take? >> somebody has to take the blame.
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i think it's great that pete carroll took the blame because that's what you want in your head coach, somebody who's going to stand up -- >> a classy move. >> -- yeah, this was my fault. tfls it was the worst call i've ever seen and listened to pete carroll stand up there say, blame me don't blame russell wilson don't blame my offensive coordinator darrell bevell this was on me. it was the worst call. you have marshawn lynch. give marshawn lynch the football. let him get into the end zone. i've heard this stat this season 0 for 5 when the seahawks were that close to the end zone for maur marshawn lynch to get into the end zone, i don't care he had the ability to be your mvp. give him the football. >> dana is absolutely right. to me it's not just that. it's also amazing that everybody thought, myself included, that they would run the ball and still the patriots were ready which is to me amazing. >> you don't want to take away from the patriots and the defense they had, but if you're pete carroll saying it was my call and my fault, call a time-out.
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you did have chances. you had time-outs. if you didn't like the way it looked, it wasn't the right situation to run the ball -- >> they were ready. the patriots were ready. >> i also don't understand, the logic was we wanted to run down the clock so the patriots wouldn't have another chance. you also have to trust in your defense that if there's ten seconds left on the clock -- >> pretty good defense, too. >> seattle's got a great defense. they could have absolutely handled that. >> now, i mean the conspiracy theories are crazed, i mean no one can really make rhyme or reason out of this but i've got to give malcolm credit. he's a household name. he said that he had a vision he was going to make a big play and his vision ended up being absolutely right. >> you know we've heard so much about russell wilson talks about the visions he has. he sees the whole game. it was sort of interesting now on the flip side somebody else's vision enabled them to make the play and that's how guys make names for themselves get contracts. he wasn't the mvp. brady was. but that moment that's the moment we're tickmoment we're going
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to remember. >> memorable moment, for sure. >> to the best and the worst of the super bowl commercials. we saw it all this year from puppies trying to make their way home, to dads emerging in various ads. celebrity cameos including liam neeson and a few had social media on fire including this one for toenail fungus. >> toenail fungus? don't hide it. tackle it with new fda approved jublia. jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. >> no commercial got people on social media fired up quite like this nationwide ad. >> i'll never learn to ride a bike. or get cooties. and i won't ever get married. i couldn't grow up because i died from an accident. >> krystal, what's your take on
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it? >> i don't know what they were thinking. i don't -- i know they wanted to make a profound point. i know they wanted to make a big splash and start this conversation, but there was no understanding of what your audience would be doing at that moment. i mean everybody's at the party having a beer wanting to celebrate. i know you don't do such things. wanting to celebrate. then the commercial comes on. >> they had to come out with a statement today. >> i'm almost on the flip side. i know ya you'rewhat you're saying. everybody was in the social setting and celebrating. that was the point of the ad. it got everybody's attention. if the idea was to raise awareness and say there are these preventable accidents that cause us to lose children in our lives, they did that. they may have made us mad in that moment because my immediate thought was this is horrible, you don't have this now. but the reason -- they got to it. >> it goes to what the goal was whether it was awareness or whether you wanted customers. we have to talk about the halftime show.
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katy perry roared and soared. she started by taking the reins of a giant lion to sing her hit song "roar." then she danced with two sharks. people on social media loved these guys. miss elliott and lenny kravitz took the stage with her and she literally soared through the crowd singing her hit "firework." dana, what did you think? not as big as spectacular as some performances, but still well received. >> yeah i will always be -- prince will be my favorite i think forever, but i loved -- we were talking about this krystal, the way she came out on that lion. i was horrified, people tweeted to me as a lions fan from detroit that's the closest the lions will get to the super bowl. >> that's mean. that's mean. >> this so was katy perry, vintage her. this is exactly what i wanted to see from her. >> what's your favorite halftime show from the past? >> this is first time i have to
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say i've actually gone back and rewound it and watched the whole thing over. i actually missed some of the game to go back and watch it again. i thought the part where they had the optical illusion tilting the field was unbelievable. i didn't like the flame dress. everything else -- >> didn't do her justice. >> missy elliott, that performance was spectacular. and people are downloading her songs like crazy now. >> even though she was humming. >> missy elliott and malcolm with the patriots -- >> butler. yeah. >> malcolm butler and missy elliott are the stars of this weekend. no doubt about it. dana krystal, please stay with me. when we come back, how does president obama watch football? and we're having a great afterparty here but jimmy fallon had some fun in phoenix last night. that's next. chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup.
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i'm going to go chips and guac. i'm a fanatic about guac. >> hillary clinton or joe biden? >> love them both. good try. >> i had to try. >> krystal, not even the beer could get him to answer that hillary clinton or joe biden question. >> he was quick, man, with that too. that was amazing. i mean obviously he selected both of them to be with him, and i'll say in terms of the way the race is shaking out, joe biden not looking so strong in the polls. several of president obama's key advisers have gone over to support hillary. it looks like they're kind of fa tacidly backing her. although the president is never going to weigh in there have been some sort of behind the scenes moves more toward hillary clinton. >> dana? >> you know, to me i'd want to see those three sitting watching the super bowl. i was impressed -- >> that would be interesting. >> that would be interesting, yeah. i was actually impressed because i liked the setting. i don't know if that's an nbc choice or the white house choice, because to me i've
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always sat there as a football fan and said, why am i watching the president on super bowl sunday? i get it it's the audience is there, but i liked that they just sort of kept that part to what -- >> very smart. >> -- to what anybody would want to see. it made me laugh. it really did. i don't think it was a tough choice between chips and guac. >> a very relaxed setting. >> very good in those settings. >> yeah. >> jimmy fallon had his own afterparty last night. the "tonight show" was on the road in phoenix and celebrated with an epic lip-synch battle. ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm having the time of my life ♪ ♪ i am a champion and you're going to hear me roar ♪
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♪ oh oh oh ♪ >> dana, who are you taking in a battle like this jimmy fallon will ferrell, or kevin hart? >> i can't take any. i'm really torn. they were all brilliant in their own way. drew barrymore jumping on. i'm such a huge will ferrell fan. i would lean that way. but kevin hart when he was singing john legend to will ferrell, and i know will ferrell helped make that in what he was doing with him. but that's that improv moment between the two of them that was just -- >> both of them very, very talented. >> we're the real winners having gotten to witness that. will ferrell, though beyonce "drunken love." >> on the floor. >> that was unbelievable. as jimmy fallon said, you can't unsee that though i see it in a good way. >> yes. >> that's what you can keep running the tape back rewinding and watching. >> you can get a laugh out of that every time.
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i also liked his rendition of yt "let it go." >> i like the concept. the whole idea of doing the lip-synch was brilliant for jimmy fallon. >> it was great in the beginning, it was will ferrell up first, they're lip-synching and have the firework phone there and he moves the mike behind him like obviously not going to need this right now. i don't need a microphone thank you. it's great. >> you should add is segment to "politics nation," we can start a lip-synch battle. i'd take you down dane fa. >> what's the first song you'd do? >> that's a good question. >> don't give it away. don't give if away. i might do it. i'm going to cut you off. dana, krystal, thank you for partying with us. when we come back why president obama's budget is not just a document. but a moral statement on who he fights for. if you take multiple medications, a dry mouth can be a common side effect. that's why there's biotene. it comes in oral rinse spray or gel so there's moisturizing relief for everyone. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth.
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answer one pivotal question. >> will we accept an economy where only a few of us do spectacularly well? or are we going to build an economy where everyone who works hard has haa chance to get ahead? >> that's the question right now. do we expand the american dream for everyone? or do we trust in the conservative idea that wealth will trickle down from the rich? look at this chart. of the last 35 years, the top .01% has seen an income grow by 600% but the bottom 90% income has been stagnant. the president wants to change that. his budget includes new funding for policies like head start, pre-k education, childcare tax credits, vouchers for low-income housing, free community college. those are tools to help close the income gap. a blueprint to move our society
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forward. a budget shows our values. i hope as we negotiate in washington we make americans what is valuable. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. the football season is over. the "hardball" season begins. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm chris matthews back in washington. the "hardball" chris matthews by the way, not that brilliant guy on the seahawks. what a whirlwind right now politically before the super bowl weekend which seems a good while ago now, mitt romney made his big announcement. it was just friday that he made the announce pt that he's out of the race for 2016. the reason? well it seems to have come down to a combination of rejection by a lot of the